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  • bbongbass
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2019-12-31

    Hello
    Thank you for reading.
    We are using the Midas Pro 9 console. Sometimes we use multiple microphones to perform a performance, but you have to control the mute according to the situation.
    So I want to know the Midi message of the Mute button on each track of the Pro 9 console.

    thank you.

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    • bbongbass
      GaryHiggins

      I would hope that with such a fine mixer of great capabilities, you would often use multiple mics!  Wish I had the midi answer, but happy new year anyway!

      • December 31, 2019
    • bbongbass
      BillHood

      Not sure if it's the same, but I did find a document that listed the Behringer Midi CC Values (which I can't seem to find again right now) that listed the Mute values as Midi Channel 2, then the CC value went from 0 (or 1?) being Mixer Channel 1 sequentially up thru the DCA's. The ones I use, for example, are Bus 16 is CC 63,  and DCA 2 is CC 73.


      Standard ; 127 is On, 0 is off. Hope maybe that helps.  They sure don't make it easy to find info, tho.  I just found out I could use Midi Channel 7 to control my XLive card - haven't seen that one anywhere else either.

      • January 1, 2020
    • bbongbass
      PatrickGMaillot All available there: https://sites.google.com/site/patrickmaillot/docs/X32-OSC.pdf, including MIDI (starting at p 134)
      • January 5, 2020
    • bbongbass
      KevinMaxwell

      This all assumes that the Midas Pro series consoles have the same Midi Implementation as the X32/M32. Do They?

      • January 6, 2020
    • bbongbass
      PatrickGMaillot Sure hope so! All SW would be the same but not the MIDI implementation? This wouldn't make sense to me. -Patrick
      • January 6, 2020
  • mahdi95
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-12-28

    Hi,

    does midas pro1 rta on every input channel?

    my software is G3.4.6 and I haven't RTA in PEQ input channel graph.

    if anyone know how to activate rta please notify me.

     

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    • mahdi95
      zigson

      Hello


      in the FX-Rack of the analyser you'll find 2 buttons called CHANNEL and SOLO


      if you activate one of these buttons you will have the RTA overlaied to the P-EQ individuel view in the GUI.... (when soloing or selecting a given channel)

      • December 27, 2019
    • mahdi95
      ww-audio

      Hi zigson


      Go to the rta and press the button follow channel (or something like that)


      I had to do it today after full reset.


      Cheers Werner

      • December 28, 2019
    • mahdi95
      zigson

      hello Werner
      it was not me that posted the question ! I posted the solution (as you did as well)
      it was mahdi95 who posted initially that question !!

      • December 31, 2019
  • soundsystemspro
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-12-25

    Hi to everyone !!! 

    I have a big problem . I connect my dl32 with midas r  and i don't have outputs. But i have inputs. I make factory reset .        I make the routing aes50 A1-16 .But nothing.  If you have some ideas. ??? Thank for the time.

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    • soundsystemspro
      RexBeckett

      @soundsystemspro 


      Hello Periklis, welcome to the community.


       


      The fastest way for us to help is if you save the scene from your console and attach the file to your post. See Choose File button below.

      • December 25, 2019
    • soundsystemspro
      soundsystemspro

      hi 


      this is the scene that i have. 


      thanks again.

      A.scn
      • December 27, 2019
    • soundsystemspro
      RexBeckett


      @soundsystemspro wrote:


      hi 


      this is the scene that i have. 


      thanks again.





      @soundsystemspro 


      In your routing, you are sending the DL32 inputs back to the outputs. Instead you need to route the console outputs to the DL32 outputs through the AES50-A port. I have marked the important part of this routing:


      AES50-A Output RoutingAES50-A Output Routing


      This routing is corrected in the attached version of your scene.


       


      Are you using the console XLR outputs for anything? The routing for these also looks a little unusual.

      A V2.scn
      • December 27, 2019
    • soundsystemspro
      soundsystemspro

      im very pleased !!!


      thanks so much


      just solve the problem.


      i send to you my regards!!!

      • December 27, 2019
    • soundsystemspro
      OneLife Hi, ihave problems to update my dl 32 with windows 10 it lose the usb kontakt.
      • January 25, 2021
  • CayeTorres
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-12-24

    Hi everyone! I have a problem with which I am not able to move forward. I have a Midas M32 as a FOH console and a DL32 stage box. Recently I bought the M32C console to use as a monitor console. The connectivity process says that if I want the master console to be the M32 of foh, internal synchronization must be selected. This console enters the aes50 A port of the stage and the M32C enters the aes50B port of the stage. The routings are done as Midas indicates in the video that I leave below, but my main problem is that I can not modify anything or gain or, eqs ... Come on, that the M32C ignores me. Could someone help me with this? Thank you very much in advance!

    https://youtu.be/JujdVMtQ1hs

    sorry for my english!

     

     

     

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    • CayeTorres
      RexBeckett

      @CayeTorres 


      Hi Cayetano, welcome to the community.


       


      Only the console connected to AES50 port A of the DL32 can adjust the preamp gains and select phantom power. The console connected to DL32 AES50-B port has +-18dB of digital trim on each of the inputs. With the exception of the preamp gains, both consoles can process the inputs as required with EQ and dynamics.

      • December 24, 2019
    • CayeTorres
      CayeTorres

      Rex, thank you very much for your response. I really didn't know that the gains were only controlled by the console that enters through the aes50a port of the DL32. But my problem is that when I try to change an eq to a channel, or a gate, or a compression from the iPad (which is how I operate the M32c) it ignores me. And another thing I have doubts about is the following: ¿Do I have to load a show or scenes through the USB input of the M32C or with the internal synchronization selected from the M32 should the same scene appear on the iPad?   Hopefully together we can find the solution. thanks and sorry again for my english!

      • December 24, 2019
    • CayeTorres
      RexBeckett


      @CayeTorres wrote:


      Rex, thank you very much for your response. I really didn't know that the gains were only controlled by the console that enters through the aes50a port of the DL32. But my problem is that when I try to change an eq to a channel, or a gate, or a compression from the iPad (which is how I operate the M32c) it ignores me. And another thing I have doubts about is the following: ¿Do I have to load a show or scenes through the USB input of the M32C or with the internal synchronization selected from the M32 should the same scene appear on the iPad?   Hopefully together we can find the solution. thanks and sorry again for my english!





      @CayeTorres 


      Do you have any control of the M32C from your iPad? There have been some recently reported problems with compatibility issues between the M32 app and iOS versions. I believe channel settings were affected.


       


      With your system configuration, there is no communication between the two consoles except that the FOH console provides the master sync to the M32C through the DL32. Each console will have its own settings. When you load a scene on the M32C, the settings should show on the app if the iPad is correctly connected to the console's network port.


       


      If you want to use the M32C as a monitor console and send the mixes to the DL32 outputs, your current configuration will not work - only the FOH M32 can send to the DL32 outputs. Instead you need to configure the system as:


       


      M32 AES50-B <--> AES50-A M32C AES50-B <--> AES50-A DL32 


       


      The M32C will, by default, have full control of the DL32 preamps and can send to the DL32 outputs. The M32C will route all the DL32 inputs to the M32 and can, if required, route outputs from the M32 to the DL32. We can help you with the routing if you tell us how you want the inputs and outputs arranged. 

      • December 24, 2019
    • CayeTorres
      CayeTorres

      @RexBeckett @GaryHiggins 


      Thank you very much for your help. I will try to connect everything this way then M32 AES50-B <--> AES50-A M32CAES50-B <--> AES50-A DL32 the routing would be as follows: outputs 1-8 for in ears, out 14 sub, out 15 L out 16 R   If you need any more information I will be happy to give it to you! Thanks again!

      • December 25, 2019
    • CayeTorres
      RexBeckett


      @CayeTorres wrote:


      @RexBeckett @GaryHiggins 


      Thank you very much for your help. I will try to connect everything this way then M32 AES50-B <--> AES50-A M32CAES50-B <--> AES50-A DL32 the routing would be as follows: outputs 1-8 for in ears, out 14 sub, out 15 L out 16 R   If you need any more information I will be happy to give it to you! Thanks again!





      @CayeTorres 


      This routing assumes that you are running firmware V4.01 on the M32C. It could be done with V3.12 if necessary.


       


      All 32 M32C Inputs come from the DL32 on AES50-B:


      M32C Input RoutingM32C Input Routing


      The M32C sends all 32 inputs to the M32 over AES50-A. It also sends outputs to the DL32 using the User Out crosspoint (see later).


      M32C AES50 Routing.M32C AES50 Routing.


      The M32 takes all 32 inputs coming from M32C over AES50-B:


      M32 Input RoutingM32 Input Routing


      All 16 M32 outputs are sent to the M32C over AES50-B:


      M32 AES RoutingM32 AES Routing


      In the M32C, the User Out crosspoint is used to route local outputs 1-12 and M32 outputs 14-16 to the DL32:


      M32C User OutM32C User Out


      Let us know if you have questions or need any changes.

      • December 25, 2019
  • dmorrier
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-12-24

    With an M32C connected to a DL16 and S16 over AES50 (not daisy chained), can the mix busses be routed to the DL16/S16 XLR outputs?  

    I have routed the 16 Outs to the 8 XLR outputs on the DL16 and S16. I can successfully send signals from the Main L/R/MC to the Outs and demonstrate it make it to each XLR output. I can also connect the Directs to the Out and demonstrate it makes it through. However when I direct a mix bus to the Outs like shown in the attached file, nothing makes it through to the DL16/S16. The meters also verify that nothing is being sent. If the Outs are also mapped to the Ultranet outputs, the meters show it make it to the Ultranet output but not the XLRs.  What am I missing? 

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    • dmorrier
      CraigFowler

      What you've shown of the routing looks fine, but there could be more to it.  Upload your whole scene file.  Have you checked that the bus masters are up, and that they're not muted, both with their own master mutes and via mute groups\DCAs?

      • December 23, 2019
    • dmorrier
      GaryHiggins

      @dmorrier The answer is yes. I would check your aes50 outputs menu and make sure "out 1-8" and "out 9-16" are set correctly for the aes50a 1-8 and/or aes50b 1-8 outputs and that both stageboxes are set to the right mode (probably both at mode 1). Your pic shows you are using post fader tap points so as Craig alluded to, make sure the faders are up and unmuted. Bottom line though is mix busses can surely be routed to the DL/S16 outputs. That assignment is done via the aes50a or b output routing menu. Make sure the DL/S16 is connected via its A port. Also what tap point are you using for direct out of the ultranet. Try using the same post fader MIXBUS assignments for the ultranet and check your meters to see if the signal no longer appears. That would indicate that it is a fader issue.

      • December 23, 2019
  • S-Audio
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-12-21

    I am having a issue when trying to use a guitar VSTi while running through a input channel. Everything works but I hear the clean guitar coming from the channel and the VSTi signal. Both are coming through on Aux1-2.

    How should I set up a input channel so I only hear the VSTi ?

    thanks.

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    • S-Audio
      KenMitchell

      Hi Ron @S-Audio , 


       


      Did you remember to take the channel out of the Main LR mix?  It sounds like you have both the dry signal and the wet return in the mix. 


       


      Ken

      • December 21, 2019
  • jornthedrummer
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-12-19

    Does the FireWire interface work with the current Mac OS?

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  • kakarkan
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-12-18
    Hi i need ipad monitor mix application for midas pro1. for musicians to make their own mix.
    And I'd love to put the lock screen on the logo thanks.

     

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    • kakarkan
      VincentPouly

      Hi, you need MixTender2 only for iPad and a wifi router connected to your PRO1.


      You can lock on on bus per iPad in order to limited the interaction between musicians.


      Hope it helps

      • December 19, 2019
  • bryandhargrave
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-12-17

    To all, thanks for taking the time to look at this (especially @ChaseMcKnight ).

    Our Pro2 running 3.4.6 Build 9 is having an issue with the first POP group button. Generally speaking it works fine. Sometimes the screen gets what I would describe as pixel trash on it. Almost like someone dropped a digital ink blot. Other times the text just freezes. It will respond to color change but not to text change. The button also never loses its ability to function. These anomalies can't be forced. They can be temporarily fixed by rebooting the console.

    Any insight would be great. Especially if it doesn't involve desoldering and replacing. That has a place on two lists... things I can do and things I don't want to do unless I have to.

    Thanks.

     

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  • Daanderson
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-12-10

    Hi guys, 
    so I have an m32c and building up a rack rig to use as a Monitor/FOH split rig. I still need to do more research but looking for opinions on what stagebox I need that will give me the most flexible options. I've been looking into the pro series stageboxes but the I/O s are confusing and it's a bit overwhelming with the options. Looking at maybe 2 DL 153s and a DL231? If I was running a Pro 1 with the m32c? Is that enough channels? Or would I need something different? 

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    • Daanderson
      GaryHiggins

      @Daanderson You would need to confirm the Pro level "blue" stagebox versions you choose can operate at 48K. Many do but not all as I recall. The DL32 and DL16 boxes would be better with the M32C imo if you want to stay Midas and Midas Pro level mic pre's. They are more or less meant for each other. You can also daisy chain via aes50 with them. With a 'Blue' pro level stagebox, even though they have the extra aes50 ports you can't. The ports are there for redundancy, should one fail the other keeps on going (which won't apply with the M32C anyway) So if you have one Blue stagebox that works at 48k on aes50a, that's it for that port regardless of ch count. Yes you still can use aes50b if need be but daisy chaining can be an issue with those boxes and of that you should be aware.


       


      Also any of the Behringer versions will work with the M32C. The SD8/16 or the S16/S32. If you are primarily using this at shows as opposed to a studio setup, I would suggest using multiple small boxes like 2 DL16's instead of 1 DL32. Or 2 DL16's and one or 2 SD8's. This allows the stageboxes to be placed on the stage more aligned with what plugs in there. An Sd8 for drums or keys, DL16 for stage L and R etc. Just my opinion.


       


      How you get any of these to the FOH is another whole story to consider. Some plan to split the ch's so the FOH can be independent of your monitor rig needs consideration. One case for the DL32/S32 as a stagebox is the way it operates (unlike other stageboxes). It allows 2 mixers to access the full 32 mic pre's via its aes50A and B ports. So any venue that had an M32 X32 or WING at FOH you could forget bringing any other splitter devices.

      • December 10, 2019
    • Daanderson
      ChaseMcKnight

      Hi @Daanderson 

      As @GaryHiggins pointed out - the "Blue" stage boxes, i.e. DL15x, DL25x, DL231 are able to operate at 48kHz but you're limited on the amount of devices you can connect as these units cannot daisy-chain like the DL16 + DL32. 

      You mentioned interest in the DL231. This would be a great option, especially if you're using a Pro1. Because it features asynchronous clocking, you'd be able connect the Pro1 (96kHz) to one side of the DL231 and the M32C (48kHz) to the other. If you went with DL153, for example, you'd also need to integrate a DN9650 w/ KT-AES50 card for the two consoles to communicate digitally. 

      • December 10, 2019
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