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    DavidUselton
    Contributor - Level 2
    2022-02-17

    Hey there. Can't seem to find where to control USB recording in M32 Edit App.  Connected to M32R so cannot use onboard screen to control this as there is no screen. :-)

     

    Thanks

    Dave

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    • DavidUselton
      Paul_Vannatto Hey David, are you meaning you have the M32C (M32R has a screen)? When the M32-Edit app is connected to the console, the USB Recorder will show up under the Save, Load, Copy, Paste icons on the right. If you are not connected the USB Recorder will not show up.
      • Feb 17
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    AENDE1
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-02-15

    What is the best way to set up a mix minus on this board.  Will be using mixer for live news remotes.

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    fricia
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-02-10

    Hello everyone

    I am currently working on a WING based systems with DP48s and a HUB4. I'm trying to do the following:

    WING-A <-> DP48-1 IN/DP48-1 through <-> HUB4 Master/HUB4 through <-> DL32-1 A/DL32-1 B <-> DL32-2 A

    I have the follwoing questions regarding this setup:

     

    1. As I understand it this should pass inputs 1 - 16 from DL32-2 to WING-A on AES50-A 33-48. However this is not the case. What does work is the HUB4 sending the talkback from the DP48s to WING-A on channel 48 (but only when taking DP48-1 out of the chain, as the 8 channels that unit inserts at the start of the AES50 stream replace 40-48 and therefore also the talkback). This is the only signal I am able to receive on the WING on AES50-A 33-48.

    No routing options on the HUB4 are engaged. The outputs of AES50-A are routed to all DL32s as expected (1-16 duplicated on the XLR outputs of both stageboxes.)

    When bypassing the HUB4 and daysichaining only the stageboxes on AES50-A everything works as expected; inputs 1-16 from DL32-2 are combined with inputs 1-32 from DL32-1 on the AES50 stream.

    Am I doing something wrong or is this currently not supported?

     

     

    2. Of course I also have DP48s connected to the hub:

    WING-A <-> DP48-1 IN/DP48-1 through <-> HUB4 MASTER/HUB4 Port 1 <-> DP48-2 IN/DP48-2 through <-> DP48-3 IN

    In this configuration DP48-1 can only remote control DP48-2 but not DP48-3. When daisychaining DP48s without the HUB4 in between, remote control works for all devices.

    Am I doing something wrong or is this currently not supported?

     

     

    3. I don't really need it in this scenario, but just out of curiosity: When daisychaining two DL32s is it possible to get OUT 1-16 on DL32-1 and OUT 17-32 on DL32-2 on their respective XLR outputs?

     

     

    Obvioulsy this would all be fixed by running a second CAT cable on AES50-B, but I would very much like to avoid this if possible...

     

    Thanks for your help!

     

     

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    • fricia
      Paul_Vannatto 1) The upstream signals (DL32 -> Wing) you are getting are because you have included the DP48 in the middle. The DP48 does not pass signals through upstream. If you are using a Hub4, it is better to connect the DP48 to the Hub4 port (1-4). That is the way the Hub4/DP48 package is designed.
      2). Don't put the DP48-1 in between Wing and Hub4. It is not designed for that. If you want to use any DP48 without the Hub4 (instead daisy chain the DP48's), either put them on their own AES50 or daisy chain them at the end (after the DL32).
      3) No. The DL32 accepts only the first and second blocks of AES50 outputs from the Wing. if you want separation (outputs 17-24) use a DL16 or S16/SD8/SD16 where you can select the output blocks.
      • Feb 10
    • fricia
      fricia Hi Paul and thank you very much for your insight!
      I think I wasn't quite clear in that I'm not getting any signals from the second DL32 no matter whether the DP48-1 in between Wing and Hub4 is there or not.
      A couple of firmware updates ago remote control via the sync master port of the Hub4 was introduced. This is what I'm trying to achieve and it seems to me this should be officially.
      Also, I think the DP48s do pass signals through upstream, else you couldn't daisy chain them...
      Here's the thing: When bypassing the Hub4 and going

      WING-A <-> DP48-1 IN/DP48-1 through <-> DL32-1 A/DL32-1 B <-> DL32-2 A

      I do get all the expected Signals from both DL32s. So the hub4 must somehow overwrite AES50 33-48 right? Which according to all the information I can find it shouldn't?
      • Feb 10
    • fricia
      Paul_Vannatto I just checked what I said with my Wing and DP48 and a stagebox (SD8) configured as such
      Wing <-> DP48 <-> SD8
      Inputs from the SD8 will not pass through the DP48 to the Wing. That is by design.
      Outputs from the Wing will pass through the DP48 to the stagebox (SD8 or DL32)

      If you include the Hub4 between Wing and DL32 (Wing <-> Hub4 <-> DL32), the inputs from the DL32 to the Wing will depend on the state of the StageConnect/AES50 A33-48) button. If it is disabled (not lit), all 48 channels of the AES50 from the DL32 (connected to the Hub4 Thru port) will pass through to the Wing. If this button is enabled, AES50 A33-48 will change from the Hub4 to include outputs of the DP48 (1-4) and replace what is coming from the second DL32.

      Here is the latest Hub4 Routing diagram
      • Feb 10
    • fricia
      Paul_Vannatto I forgot to mention the new Talkback feature. If the talkback is enabled on the DP48 (and the DP48 is connected to one of the Hub4 ports 1-4), when the Mic button is pressed, the Hub4 will replace AES50 A48 with the talkback signal so that the musician can talk to the FOH engineer. This only works with the Hub4. If using the DP48 by itself, talkback will not work.
      • Feb 10
    • fricia
      Paul_Vannatto I just added this to the Behringer World Wiki for future reference
      https://behringer.world/wiki/doku.php?id=hub4_dp48_routing
      • Feb 10
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    JsunTyler
    Contributor - Level 3
    2022-02-09

    Advanced Routing Question

    My goal is to edit scene called internet so Mains LR are routed to my PC to be an input audio source for Streaming. Both of these scenes were created by support from this forum. Scene Main M32c 1 is sending audio to M32C2 scene internet and is working the way it is intended for streaming. Currently I am using aTEM audio from M32C 2 into OBS again it is working but the gain staging is a pain. The goal is to use Internet M32C 2 as an audio interface that replaces the ATEM audio source. I am close but I can't figure out how to get main LR which has been routed three ways from testing 1/2, 7/8 and 15/16. The challenge also is how I have card routing involved in this setup already. I don't want to mess that up at all. This grop has helped me out in the past, if this is possible I look forward to growing my knowledge more


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    • JsunTyler
      Paul_Vannatto Hey JsunTyler good to see you again. Do I assume that you want to connect the M32C to the PC via USB? If so, OBS wants to see the signal on USB 1/2. To do that with the Internet scene, change the following:

      On Routing, User Out screen assign the following:
      * Output 1 -> Out 7 (Main L)
      * Output 2 -> Out 8 (Main R)

      On Routing, Card screen assign the following:
      * Output 1-8 -> User Out 1-8
      • Feb 9
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    bhendrix2982
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-02-09

    Any recommendations for not a brand new iPad but something refurbished? Year models that are compatible with the M32 software on iPads? Any help is appreciated. Just don't want to drop another $1-2k on a new iPad right now. 

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    • bhendrix2982
      Paul_Vannatto Mixing Station should work with older iPads
      • Feb 9
    • bhendrix2982
      GaryHiggins 5th generation works well. Model MPGT2LL/A (also runs Mixing Station well)
      • Feb 10
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    zwilksch
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-02-09

    Hi, apologies if this covered elsewhere. 
    We use an a Midas M32C in our studio as an interface in an aggregate device set up with Universal Apollo Twin. We were using an older Mac and it worked beautifully. We recently got a 2020 M1 Mac Mini (OS Monterey 12.2) and for some reason the M32C doesn't show up at all as a device. We have tried different cords. We also have an X32R which does work with M1 Mac Mini as USB interface. We are currently using that, but our ideal set up is with the Midas. We tried swapping the USB Cards (put the X32 card in the M32) but the Midas still wouldn't show up as a device. We also tried the DN32 Card (M32 card) in the X32 and that works fine with the Mac Mini. The Firmware is all up to date on the Midas. I guess the question I have is about whether it's a known issue that the M32C will not work with the new apple silicon chips and if there is any tech support I can get to work through the issue? 
    cheers,

    zak

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    • zwilksch
      zwilksch Hi everyone, was just wondering if there was anyone who knew anything about the above issue?
      • Feb 21
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    ShaneB717
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-02-08

    We just upgraded from the P16s and love the sound quality. The one thing that we are really looking for in a firmware update would be independent Mix A & B control of the relative levels and panning within each group. We run like instruments on each group, so it would be ideal for each band member to control their group submixes independently.

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    • ShaneB717
      Paul_Vannatto Everything you are asking for is already included in the current firmware. In fact, IIRC, they have always been there.
      • Feb 7
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    sullyboy3
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-02-08

    I just recently tried to record from my M32R for the first time, but my laptop only recognized the first 8 channels, not all 32 (I have 32 in/32 out selected on the console settings). I have the most recent driver for it downloaded and installed, but I am running Windows 11, which I think is the problem. I looked in the update history doc that came with the download, and it said nothing about support for Windows 11.

    I just want to make sure I'm not overlooking anything. And, if Windows 11 is the issue, does anyone know when they might release an update that supports it?

    Thanks yall

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    • sullyboy3
      GaryHiggins I have an M32R and use Win11 without an issue but using the X-Live card, the driver version I'm using is 5.12.0. You are using the ASIO driver model correct? It needs to be that, also what firmware for the M32R?
      • Feb 7
      • Midas M32R Audio Driver issues on Windows 11
        sullyboy3 I'm pretty sure I don't have the X-Live card. I'm using DN32-USB Windows Driver off of Midas's website, version 5.12.0. The firmware may be out of date, I will check that when I get a chance.
        • Feb 8
      • Midas M32R Audio Driver issues on Windows 11
        GaryHiggins Double check that you are using the ASIO driver, the 8 ch's you report sounds a bit like another driver model.
        • Feb 9
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    JimmyValenza
    Contributor - Level 2
    2022-02-07

    Someone told me there is a revised spec for the Pro2 that Cat5 shielded is recommended is this true? can a shielded cat5 be used with the pro series?

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  • New
    vita
    Contributor - Level 2
    2022-02-06

    I am a midas Pro series user, but midas has a serious problem. There is no technical assistance here (Portugal/Spain)! this is a serious problem!

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    • vita
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here with Music Tribe. Technical support is available world wide by clicking on Support and then Technical Support to submit a ticket.
      • Feb 6
      • Midas  technical suport
        vita Usually, when we have problems, we want a quick and effective solution. Taking the equipment to an authorized repairer. Other brands provide them.
        • Feb 6
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