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  • marosell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-23

    Long time lurker first time poster! I'm gigging with my band live tonight and it's the first time we're using the bass player's cabinet. The head on his cabinet is the Hartke 3500. Previous equipment did not have the ability to send/return signal to a mixing board, but now we do.

    My question: If I bring the signal from the head into the XR18 on a channel (say, channel 2) from the effects send, then return the signal via Aux 2 to the head's return (xlr to trs adapter?), can the cabinet's volume be controlled via the XR18? I assume this would be very similar to using Bus2/Aux2 as a personal monitor, and only playing Channel 2 from this "monitor".

    Further: If so, I see that I can route the IN/OUT such that Aux2 is soley in receipt of Channel 2 instead of Bus 2. If I do this, can I control the volume going to the bass cabinet with the Channel 2 fader on the Master Fader Panel and not have to open the bus panel? Is there any other way to route signal such that the bass cabinet can be controlled from the Master Fader Panel?

    Thanks!

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  • musictalks
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-08-23

    I've a problem with my X32. The power shut down and now only the buttons on the right of the monit light (but are dim). Out of warranty, so cracked it open and have the following voltages from the PSU (main connector, 13pin)

    1) 47v, 2) 15.14v, 3) 6.67v, 4) 15v, 5) 0v, 6) 8.25v, 7) 3.3v, 8) 5.0v, 9) 5.0v, 10) 5.0v, 11) 0v, 12) 0v, 13) 0v

    235.2 v ac coming in through the back.

    Can anyone confirm if these are correct or not?

    Cheers from Australia

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  • doubleJ
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-22

    Maybe the X32's solo function doesn't work this way, but I'm used to Yamaha's Cue function.
    With that, it only outputs the cued channel.
    The X32 outputs all channels, but quieter.
    Is there a way to only output the solo'd channel to headphones?
    I didn't see an option that worked that way.
    Thanks...
    JJ

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    • doubleJ
      DaveMorrison

      Hi @doubleJ 


      The default solo action will route the solo-ed channel(s) to the headphones/monitor outs.Screen Shot 2019-08-23 at 12.03.09 AM.pngThis screen shot shows the default settings:


       

      • August 22, 2019
    • doubleJ
      doubleJ


      @DaveMorrison wrote:


      Hi @doubleJ 


      The default solo action will route the solo-ed channel(s) to the headphones/monitor outs.Screen Shot 2019-08-23 at 12.03.09 AM.pngThis screen shot shows the default settings:





      The problem was that I was doing a virtual soundcheck and I had the master bus going out the same outputs as my kick and snare.
      Whenever I tried to solo, I used kick as it was the first channel.
      When it didn't work, as I intended, I didn't try other channels.
      I feel like a goob.
      Hehehe...
      Thanks for the assistance, even though it was just me being a moron.
      JJ

      • August 23, 2019
  • EllisLampman
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-08-22

    How do I get the effects to go down with channel slider as it does with main LR? I drop the volume on a vocal channel in a monitor buss and I hear all of the wet signal. 

    Thanks

    E

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    • EllisLampman
      Paul_Vannatto


      @EllisLampman wrote:


      How do I get the effects to go down with channel slider as it does with main LR? I drop the volume on a vocal channel in a monitor buss and I hear all of the wet signal. 





      That is because the channel sends taps (post fader) to the buses feeding the FX (typically buses 13-16) are related to the channel strip faders, not the individual channel sends faders to the other buses that feed your monitors. Therefore the resulting wet mix returned is a result of the processing of those channel strip fader levels.

      • August 22, 2019
  • mstojako
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-22

    I recently purchase the TC Helico Voice Live Play Acoustic.  Overall I am satisfied with the unit but would like to incorporate to external guitar effects pedals.  They are my Boss DS-1 distortion pedal and my Boss CH-1 chorus pedal.  I realize that the VLPA has a guitar chorus effect bulit in but have not found that to be very useful or effective and want to flexiblility and ease of control I get fom my Boss pedal.  Has anyone out there hooked up external effects to their VLPA?  If so, how and did it create any problems for you.

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    • mstojako
      KenMitchell

      Hi Melvin ( @mstojako ), 


       


      Welcome to the community.  Take a look at the diagram on Page 23 of the manual.   Just insert your pedalboard in-between the VLPA and your amp and you should be fine.  If you aren't using an amp, just take the output of your pedalboard back to another channel on your mixer. 


       


      Then, under Guitar FX on the VLPA, make sure all of the FX are set to OFF. 


       


      Hope this helps, 


      Ken


       

      • August 22, 2019
    • mstojako
      mstojako

      Thank You Ken!


      I'm currently running my VLPA directly into a JBLeon612. If I understand you correctly I would run my 1/4 guitar cable to the VLPA Guitar In then go from the VLPA Guitar Out to the Boss DS-1 via a  XLR Female -1/4" TRS Balanced Interconnect Cable.  I would run my Boss DS-1 into the Boss CH-1 with a 1/4" TR patch Cable and come out the CH-1 with either another  XLR Female -1/4" TRS Balanced Interconnect Cable to a XLR Male-XLR Female and plug into the JBLeon 612 or just go from the Boss CH-1 with a 1/4" TRS - XLR Male Balanced Interconnect Cable.


       Mel


       

      • August 22, 2019
  • ron-e-g
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-22

    I can't get the sound driver for my Uphoria 404 to share with two programs at once! It won't for example work with my Line6 PODFarm  guitar sim and Guitar Tonemaster.com site so I can jam along with their jam songs. Too if I have Lets say EZ drums2 open the guitar site or any other site such as youtube won't play any audio. Soon as I close the PODFarm or ezd2 They will play again! Any help greatly appreciated.

    Ron

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    • ron-e-g
      KenMitchell

      Hi Ron ( @ron-e-g ), 


       


      This has been an ongoing issue for some time now.  Assuming you are on Windows since I've never had a problem on Mac?   This is caused by bitrate conflicts between the two programs.   


       


      I've had some success in Windows by doing the following to match the bitrate: 


       


      1. Start with no programs running. 


      2. Open the UMC Control Panel and go to the "Status" tab. 


      3. Note the "Current Sample Rate".  This is reporting what the interface is currently set to. 


      4. Open up Guitar Tonemaster.com and start to play a backing track. 


      5. Make note of what the current sample rate is in the UMC control panel. It may have changed. 


      6. In your DAW, create a project with the same sample rate and add your guitar sim to an instrument track. 


      7. Both should work now. 


       


      YouTube is a little trickier since each file you play may have a different sample rate.  You either have to do the same steps above for each file or your can use another trick.  What I do is use a tool called Audio Hijack (Mac) to save the audio to a .WAV file and then I add that to my DAW project along with whatever plugin I want to use.  I'm sure there are similar programs for Windows to capture audio from another program. 


       


      Hope this helps, 


      Ken

      • August 22, 2019
    • ron-e-g
      ron-e-g

      I'm not sure we are tracking the same Ken. Thanks for your response. My problem here doe not involve any of my DAWs.  Stand alone  only.  I like to jam along to different jam songs without opening any of my DAWs.  I have two.


      Interesting enough..This problem doe not exist with my stand alone Guitar Rig 5. But soon as I try to play through POD farm,  the  Guitar Tone.com site sound stops , and all I get is the perpetual circuling  arrow! Also If I try to open any other of my  stand alone audio programs like EZ drum, EZ keys , SampleTank or AmpliTube. It imidetaly stops audio in the playing track in the guitar tone site, or touTube site ,or what ever might be playing. I should mention here, I had problems..a lot when I upgraded to Win.10 back when. I thought they were resolved. So I don't know if this is a Windows thing or Behringer, or what. Once this event happens..I have to re-boot the CPU to get the player working again.

      • August 22, 2019
    • ron-e-g
      ron-e-g

      OK..Think I figured it out. I had to go to..Control Panel>Sound>line out 1-2 click on that then choose advanced Tab , and select from the drop-down list the same sample rate as the other programs seem to be using 24bit 44100Hz instead of 48000 Hz.  All playing well together again!

      • August 22, 2019
    • ron-e-g
      KenMitchell

      Hi @ron-e-g ,


       


      Glad to hear you got it working but... that will only work until some random SOB comes by and sets the bitrate back to 48000.  Just so you are aware. 


       


      Usually, the standalone versions of things like Guitar Rig are just .exe wrappers for the plugins so there's usually a place where you can change the birate for those as well. Similar to what I described when starting a new project in your DAW. 


       


      Hope this helps, 


      Ken

      • August 22, 2019
  • yann_
    Regular Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-22

    No new updates or improvements for this unit? 

    Curious if it will stay like how it is or maybe some new features will be added? 

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  • JohnGaia
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-22

    I bought an XR18 two weeks ago and set my first gig with no problem, all the preamps were working fine but last week I noticed that I had to push up the Mic Gain to +60 on my Talk Back channel to get a good input level (the meter shows green almost yellow)  So I turned off the mixer and power it up again and just for few seconds the preamp worked well before going low again. I have changed the xlr cable, mic and it doesnt change

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    • JohnGaia
      RexBeckett

      @JohnGaia 


      Hi Jonathan, welcome to the forum.


       


      Does this problem only happen on one channel? If you change the channel to use a different analog input (on the Input tab), does the problem remain?


       


      If you attach your scene file to your post (see Choose File button below) we can check for any configuration issues.

      • August 21, 2019
    • JohnGaia
      Paul_Vannatto


      @JohnGaia wrote:


      last week I noticed that I had to push up the Mic Gain to +60 on my Talk Back channel to get a good input level





      I'm curious as to how/why you are using a talkback mic on an XR18. Typically talkback is from FOH with a snake to the inputs/outputs on stage. The XR18 is the stagebox (inputs/outputs) and is usually located on the stage. 

      • August 21, 2019
    • JohnGaia
      JohnGaia


      Hi,


      I tried rerouting the input as you told me and the preamp worked it looks like the problem is coming from the stagebox (XR18), I attached the scene that I've been using since I got my hands on it.



      RockBand.scn
      • August 22, 2019
    • JohnGaia
      RexBeckett


      @JohnGaia wrote:




      Hi,


      I tried rerouting the input as you told me and the preamp worked it looks like the problem is coming from the stagebox (XR18), I attached the scene that I've been using since I got my hands on it.







      @JohnGaia


      Let me check if I understand correctly: The problem is with channel 16 (TB)? If you change the input to another preamp - say 15 - it works correctly? If yes to both, it may be a hardware problem. I would call your supplier.


       


      I don't see anything in your scene that would cause this problem on channel 16. I noticed than channel 8 (VOX1) has a very high gain (60dB). Is this also because of a problem?

      • August 22, 2019
  • BJordan
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-21

    I think the biggest missing feature of the Play Acoustic is that it offers two parametric EQs for the guitar, but not for the vocal! It would be great if one or both could be switchable to the vocal instead, as I already have guitar EQ available in my onboard preamp. I would love to recommend this to a singer friend of mine, but she needs a big cut at about 2.3KHz and the Play Acoustic won't do it. 

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  • gtcode
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-21

    We have an M32 AES50-B <-> X32 Core A <> X32 Core B <-> DL32 A

     

    Sync master is X32 Core

     

    We are not always getting sync on power up

     

    1) Is there a special power up sequence here? X32 Core first?

    2) Can they be arbitrarily power cycled (as long as the X32 core being the master is on)

     

    Maybe the X32 Core which I got used has a problem here?

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    • gtcode
      Paul_Vannatto


      @gtcode wrote:


      We are not always getting sync on power up


      Anytime I get intermittent sync, it is usually due to a flakey AES50 cable.


      1) Is there a special power up sequence here? X32 Core first?


      I normally power up the master clock device first. But it seems to sync irrespective of the order.


      Maybe the X32 Core which I got used has a problem here?


      I would suspect a cable.





       

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      Thanks Paul


      We lost sync between X32Core+DL32.


      We powere cycled them both which fixed sync


      This caused M32+X32Core sync to be lost


      We reset M32, sync still lost


      We powered everything down then turned on X32Core+M32, waited for them to boot/sync, then turned on M32 and it worked finally.


       


      As per these steps, sync was lost on both cables at separate times


       


      If this is supposed to be robust on bootup at all times I'd suspect the X32 Core since sync was lost or not achieved on both AES ports of the X32 Core

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      By the way, we did not move or change any AES or other cables at all during this process.  Entirely related to reboots and the like.

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      Sorry no edit feature. We are using high quality AES50 cables here for both cables. Odds they are problematic is extremely low, and odds that both happened to fail is even lower. Sorry no edit feature on these posts my bad

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      Paul_Vannatto

      Have you tried to change the master to the M32?


      Are the AES50 cables shielded with ethercons on each end?


      Have you tried re-aligning the RJ45 connectors inside the ethercon ends (by loosening the stress nut, plugging the end into a jack, wiggling slightly, then tightening the nut)?

      • August 21, 2019
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