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  • Pyrosinger
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-10-06
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  • markmcilvena
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-10-05

    (Alas... I think I know the answer.)

    Hey Folks. Just wondering if there's any way of routing the Aux input to the PA looper? I have an analogue wooden 'kick drum' stomp box pedal, (Australian made 'little Monster') which when plugged into the 'Aux in' via a 1/4" to 1/8" mini jack lead 'pumps' out through the PA's 'Main Outs' quite nicely. Just wondering if there is a setting option to get this into the looper on the PA?

    It would be great if I could 'stomp' out a bar or two at the start of songs during live sets which would record into the looper... to save my tired foot! Cheers in advance - Mark Mac 

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    • markmcilvena
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @markmcilvena,
      Yep this is already implemented!  Assuming you're on the latest firmware (48), just go into the "Setup" menu, and on the "Loop" page there's the "Input" setting which has "Aux" as one of the options.  Cheers!

      • October 9, 2019
    • markmcilvena
      ColinWright

      Man thanks, never thought of doing this. 


      Off to buy a lead converter and give it a go. 


      Slainte.


       

      • January 24, 2020
  • Doris
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-10-03

    Hi there, I'm a singer and a totally newbie with the TC Helicon Voicelive 2 touch... I played with my band and wanted to mix with some live loops I was making but they got out of sync with the rythm of the band. I've been looking everywhere but I cannot find how to do this, hope someone understands what the problem is?

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    • Doris
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @Doris,
      This is actually a pretty difficult issue when it comes to live looping with a band. You basically have two options, and your drummer might hate both...


      Option 1 is to crack the whip on your drummer.  Get them to pay attention to your loop, and once you've recorded a loop and have it playing back they'll need to play in time with your loop.  Your loop becomes the new tempo master that everyone else slaves to, especially the drummer, or else like you found everything will go out of sync very fast.


      Option 2 is to introduce a MIDI click track.  Use something like a laptop to output MIDI clock with an audible click track - like a metronome the click track is then fed to your drummer through in-ear monitors (headphones), and MIDI clock is sent to your Touch 2's MIDI input which will quantize your loops to the click track.  This is obviously extra hardware and effort but some drummers will prefer this method.


      Both of these will require cooperation and extra effort from your drummer, which isn't ideal but really this is only way to loop live in sync with a band.  It's a simple problem with a pretty complex and still-evolving solution.


      The concept of a "listening looper" is a relatively new one.  To have a looper that adjusts to your playing, as opposed to adjusting your playing to the looper, isn't a common thing in the industry yet.  TC Electronic just released a listening looper last year, the Ditto Jam, and its beat-detection tech is hopefully going to make it into future TC Helicon products.  But for now with vocal looping you'll have to do it the old way (above), or alternatively you could send your vocals out from the Touch 2 in mono and do your looping in a Ditto Jam, that'd make your dummer happy but you'd only have one loop slot as opposed to Touch 2's 6 loop slots.

      • October 3, 2019
    • Doris
      Doris

      Well first of all: thank you very much for reacting, this helps me getting to know the options a lot better!!! The solutions you suggest are in my case not possible because we don't have a drummer (we ave a percussion player , the rhythms come form the computers of the keyboard player and the guitarist) so that is a bit difficult.


      I heard somenone mentionng Ditto Jam so I will explore this as well although I bought the Voicelive for this purpose. Another thing is that I want to mix in my loop while we are playing, (instead of me starting them an someone else following me) so that makes it even more difficult.


      Other options I was thinking about:
      1:can the slave option in the settings for metronome do something to this?
      2: I heard someone mentioning Ableton push? Is that an option?

      • October 4, 2019
  • Timmossop
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-10-02

    Hey Everybody.

    Bit of a noob question, but I can't seem to find an exact answer anywhere?

    My question is pretty simple:

    * If our band plays a whole tone downtuned (2 x semitones down from A440)

    Is the reference for my pitch correction still just default (a440) or do I need to do a manual adjustment to the pedals pitch reference?

    Cheers

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    • Timmossop
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @Timmossop,
      You should be fine and not have to change anything.  Even if you're playing a whole tone down (with guitars tuned to D-G-C-F-A-D), an A4 note is still 440Hz for you guys.  You should be good, cheers!

      • October 9, 2019
  • WhiskeyJaxx
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-10-01

    I have a TC Helicon VoiceTone Single H1 Intelligent Harmonizer and when I use it with my wireless Shure system will activate the pedal when I start to talk or sing into the mic. This does not happen when using a wired mic.

    Anyone experience this and have a remedy

    Thank you!!

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    • WhiskeyJaxx
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @WhiskeyJaxx,
      My suspicion is that you have Mic Control activated and the pedal thinks you have our MP-75 microphone attached.  There's a little button on the right side of the pedal labelled "MIC CONTROL", ensure that button is depressed out and this issue will hopefully stop.  Cheers!

      • November 13, 2019
  • flyingsnowman
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-09-30

    I tried to import sysex data from a Voicelive 2 into my Voicelive 3 Extreme. Doesn't seem to work! Does this mean that the two devices are incompatible? What about users that have a model 2 and they want to upgrade to the 3 Extreme: will they loose all their sounds???

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    • flyingsnowman
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @flyingsnowman,
      Unfortunately yes that's correct - VoiceLive 2 presets are not compatible with VoiceLive 3, and vice versa.  This is because the two products, although quite similar on the outside, are vastly different on the inside.  The harmony effect alone is a greatly revamped algorithm in the VoiceLive 3, restricting conversion between the two products... not to mention all the new audio-routing and guitar effects and everything else new in VoiceLive 3.  Sorry!

      • October 3, 2019
  • electricfunk73
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-09-28

    I want to use both the VL3x effects and some of my pedalboard effects that the VL3x doesn't have, at the same time. I am using a mic and playing guitar and/or bass through the VL3x and then it is connected to the PA system via the XLR outs L/R. I would like all the effects from both VL3x and my external pedalboard effects to be heard through the PA system, be able to turn on/off external effects as normal. This setup will be for Church worship service through the stereo PA system. For example, I have an EHX C9 that I like to use for organ sounds, played through my guitar during some parts of the service. I have other pedals that give me different instrument sounds like the C9 that I need to use with the VL3x guitar fx (reverb, chorus, delay, etc...). Some of my external effects are stereo outs like my Mimiq doubler for guitar. How do I connect my external pedalboard of which need a stereo out, so that I can use it with the VL3x's internal fx, and still hear everything through the PA system only. There won't be any amplifier or monitor being used, just straight to the PA system. Thanks!

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    • electricfunk73
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @electricfunk73,
      So incorporating a pedalboard with a VoiceLive 3 isn't impossible but it's kinda tricky.  One issue is that the VoiceLive is expecting clean guitar input for reliable chord detection, if you send VL3 a distorted guitar you'll find your vocal harmonies will often pick "wrong" notes.  Another obstacle for your setup is that VL3's guitar input is a mono input only, there's no way to get a stereo signal through its guitar path.  These two things make me want to tell you to put your pedalboard after the VoiceLive, you could run the VL3's stereo guitar output into your stereo pedals no problem, but you said you're using the VoiceLive's guitar effects for reverb and delay - obviously you don't want to be sending an echo-y guitar into your C9...


      To have your pedalboard before the VoiceLive, there is a way around the chord-detection thing, but you'll probably have to ditch the idea of using stereo effects on your board.  To be able to use your pedalboard first to alter your guitar signal and then send that into the VoiceLive, and still get reliable chord detection for harmonies, you'll need to split your guitar signal at the source.  Use a 6.5mm splitter (like this) plugged into your guitar to split its dry signal, send one copy through your pedalboard which then goes into the VoiceLive's guitar input, and send the other dry signal copy directly into the VoiceLive's auxiliary ("AUX") input.  Now a couple settings:  In the "Setup" menu on the "System" tab set the "Global NaturalPlay Source" to "Aux/Mon", and also in the "Mix" menu on the "Main Mix" tab turn the "Aux" level all the way down to "Off".  With this configuration, your wet guitar (pedalboard into VoiceLive effects) will be audible out the main XLR outputs, and your dry guitar will be acting as a 'silent' guide through the auxiliary path.


      The cons are that you won't be able to have stereo effects from your board, and of course the extra cables, but I believe this is best way to utilize your VoiceLive with a pedalboard and still get reliable harmonies.

      • October 3, 2019
  • irwiner
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-09-25

    Hello everybody,

    I recently purchased the VL3 extreme and am very happy with it. However there are 3 things I cannot find how to do so I am wondering if there is something I have missed, a workaround or it is simply impossible to do... 

    1. Looper - When I press Stop track A/B/C button, the track stops instantly. Is is possible to press stop and have the VL3 to stop the track only at the end of it ?

    2. Drums - I am really missing the ability to have a set of drums that could be used instead of the metronome for example. Is it possible to replace the standard set of sounds usable for the metronome by another sound? Meaning to navigate in the files of the VL3 and replace the current metronome sounds by other ones ?

    Alternatively, I know I can load a drum patern as a backing track or record it with the aux input. However, once this is done, in loop quantize or smart I cannot change the BPM to adjust the pattern speed depending on my needs...I would rather avoid to have 10 backing tracks per drum pattern each with a different bpm.

    Do you have any recommendation on how to manage this ?

    3. Soud effects guitar or vocals - How can I do to have sound effects on the same preset or even on the whole VL3 to have the same output level in volume ? there are all sort of effects that **bleep**ulate, most of them with pregain and post gain volume options. At the end, hiting the comp, drive or changing the preset can give me a volume level totally different and therefore impossible to mixt together in the looper....

     How do you manage this without using a sound level meter in adjusting each effect / preset one by one ?

     

    Thank you all for you help!

     

     

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    • irwiner
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @irwiner,
      Glad to hear you're liking your VL3X so far.  Hopefully I can help clarify some of these thing for you...


      1. There's no way to queue up a loop-stop action, pressing "Stop" will always stop the loop immediately.  This requires a little extra skill/work but you have to time your button press with the end of your loop when you want it to stop.


      2. The metronome samples cannot be altered or replaced.  Also there's no way to stretch or squish recorded/imported loops into new BPMs.  So yeah unfortunately you're stuck with having to import drums and dedicate a loop slot to each BPM you think you'll need.


      3. Output levels for each preset are managed manually.  There are of course the unit's overall output levels in the Mix menu, but getting each preset's output level relative to other presets is a manual process.  There's no global compressor or something that'll equalize all presets to output at a level similar to each other.  We did our best with the factory presets all to be pretty close to each other's output level, but creating new presets will require you to bounce back-and-forth between a few presets to get an idea of their levels relative to each other.


      Sorry this reply turned into "nope, nope, and nope" - if you have any other questions feel free to ask.  Cheers!

      • October 3, 2019
  • Marie
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-09-24

    Hi,

    The function Sync SERIAL is KO when I launch loops by switches assigned with buttonmap (S:A) => it works as Quantize whereas if I lanch loops in the menu "looper" funtion SERIAL is ok.

    Is it possible to do ? However, how can I launch loops and effects in the same time ? can I affect one loop to one preset and use steps ?

    Thanks a lot

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    • Marie
      SimonBlakely

      SERIAL quantization does not work with loop triggers - it has been common feature request in the past, as it would be a really useful functionality for the Switch-3/6.


       

      • September 25, 2019
  • Beppe1
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-09-23

    Hello, I'm sorry for my english, I would like to buy a voicelive, but I can't decide between the voicelive 2, the 2 touch and the 3 extreme. The thing that interests me most is the completeness and quality of the vocal effects. Could you tell me which of these machines is the most complete and performant from a vocal point of view? I also play the guitar, with the same characteristics on the vocal effects, I would choose the machine that I can also use with the guitar (but not if I have to compromise with the voice effects). I will be grateful to anyone who wanted to answer me.

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