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Contributor - Level 1

AUX add 6 db to mix on Pro2c

Hello.

On my Pro2c i found this.

First, here is the Routing explained.
- Mic inputs are routed as normal to input 1-48
- Aux 1-12 is routed to monitor on stage
- Aux 13-16 goes to internal effects (reverb, delay, reverb2, reverb3)
- Effects goes to input 49-56 in stereo linked pairs.
Masters goes to FOH as usual

Then the mix
- One mic in and adjusted to normal gain. No eq, gate etc.
-Then i send this signal out on AUX 1 (monitor at stage) at 0dB. Nice and loud.
-I also send to aux 14 (delay). This too at 0 db. The delay is only once, mix is 100% wet.
- - In the FOH speakers this is fine. Same Level on the delay sound (echo) as on the Direct signal. And again. The fader is set to 0dB

On monitors the story is different.
- I also route the delay to monitors, again, at 0 db.
- The delayed sound is now about 6 db louder than the original signal. Everything is at 0 db. Changing post or pre fader does not change anything.

To mee it seem like the effects are sent 6dB louder to aux than to FOH mix. Reducing the send from the aux Returns by 6 dB does the trick. But this means that when ever i send an effect to monitor, it must be 6dB less than when i send it to FOH.

This is easy to hear, and i can see it using the in desk spectrometer (wich is just a great tool) on the aux sends. On the delay it is obvious, on reverbs, it is a bit more subtle.

The Pro2c is updated to latest software.

Is this a bug?
HåkonFlatøy Contributor - Level 1 2015-09-19

2015-09-19

AUX add 6 db to mix on Pro2c

Hello.

On my Pro2c i found this.

First, here is the Routing explained.
- Mic inputs are routed as normal to input 1-48
- Aux 1-12 is routed to monitor on stage
- Aux 13-16 goes to internal effects (reverb, delay, reverb2, reverb3)
- Effects goes to input 49-56 in stereo linked pairs.
Masters goes to FOH as usual

Then the mix
- One mic in and adjusted to normal gain. No eq, gate etc.
-Then i send this signal out on AUX 1 (monitor at stage) at 0dB. Nice and loud.
-I also send to aux 14 (delay). This too at 0 db. The delay is only once, mix is 100% wet.
- - In the FOH speakers this is fine. Same Level on the delay sound (echo) as on the Direct signal. And again. The fader is set to 0dB

On monitors the story is different.
- I also route the delay to monitors, again, at 0 db.
- The delayed sound is now about 6 db louder than the original signal. Everything is at 0 db. Changing post or pre fader does not change anything.

To mee it seem like the effects are sent 6dB louder to aux than to FOH mix. Reducing the send from the aux Returns by 6 dB does the trick. But this means that when ever i send an effect to monitor, it must be 6dB less than when i send it to FOH.

This is easy to hear, and i can see it using the in desk spectrometer (wich is just a great tool) on the aux sends. On the delay it is obvious, on reverbs, it is a bit more subtle.

The Pro2c is updated to latest software.

Is this a bug?

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Contributor - Level 2

Re: AUX add 6 db to mix on Pro2c

When summing a stereo channel to mono you will have 6dB more.
That's the reason you have 6 dB more of the Delay in the monitor.