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Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

I am struggling (to say the least) with the integration of Logic Pro and the Midas 32.

The challenge: I want to map Audio Track 1 from Logic Pro to the Midas 32 (on the left side, track 1), Audio Track 2 in Logic Pro to the Midas Channel 2, etc. I was told by selecting the Card 1-8, Card 9-16 etc, and mapping the channels output in Logic Pro to Output 1, it would appear on Track 1 on the Midas 32. It has not worked. I have found NO way to get the Midas 32 to align with the left bank of 16 tracks. I have assigned the Card in the Home section of Routing as told. I have mapped the output of the Logic track as mono outout 1, output 2 etc respectively and still all tracks appear on the right side of the board.

Please, can someone explain this to me like I was 3 years old? And if this is NOT possible, can someone please tell me too? I doubt very much that this cannot be done as I have seen Behringer boards do this.

Thanks

Mike

Michael Grande
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2019-10-15

Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

I am struggling (to say the least) with the integration of Logic Pro and the Midas 32.

The challenge: I want to map Audio Track 1 from Logic Pro to the Midas 32 (on the left side, track 1), Audio Track 2 in Logic Pro to the Midas Channel 2, etc. I was told by selecting the Card 1-8, Card 9-16 etc, and mapping the channels output in Logic Pro to Output 1, it would appear on Track 1 on the Midas 32. It has not worked. I have found NO way to get the Midas 32 to align with the left bank of 16 tracks. I have assigned the Card in the Home section of Routing as told. I have mapped the output of the Logic track as mono outout 1, output 2 etc respectively and still all tracks appear on the right side of the board.

Please, can someone explain this to me like I was 3 years old? And if this is NOT possible, can someone please tell me too? I doubt very much that this cannot be done as I have seen Behringer boards do this.

Thanks

Mike

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Re: Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

Are you trying to record Midas channel 1 (M1) to a track in Logic?

Are you trying to send the output from Logic track 1 (L1) to the Midas?

Are you trying to route the audio from Logic through the Midas and back to Logic?

Logic Pro X 10.4.8, 10.5.0, X-Touch 1.15, XR18 1.5, macOS 10.14.5|10.15.2
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Re: Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

Hi Chris

I am trying to route tracks recorded in Logic to the Midas bank of channles 1-16 on the left side. The idea was to be able to use the effects and do a full mix, then mix down with the effects from the Midas rather than using the plugins. Does that make sense? I have sent each track in Logic to the respective Mono Outputs, and assigned the Routing to Card 1-8 Card 9-16 and the only thing I can see is the Audio in Logic on the right side bank of the Midas

Michael Grande
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Re: Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

I don't have an M32, but I do have an XR18 which presents a similar situation for outboard processing in Logic.

In Logic - create 16 audio tracks. On each audio track use the I/O plugin to send the audio to an output channel, and to the channel where the audio will come back.

The Logic audio tracks will have their output set to Stereo Out (simple case)

Make sure the M32 appears as 32 in/32 out interface to the Mac.

deal with the fact that everything will now have to be done in real time, no offline bouncing.

You don't, necessarily, want to have the M32 set to be in DAW mode (MCU) which will let you "drive" Logic from the M32. You just want Logic to send the audio to the M32 and record what comes back.

 

Logic Pro X 10.4.8, 10.5.0, X-Touch 1.15, XR18 1.5, macOS 10.14.5|10.15.2
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Re: Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

Go to routing / home and scroll down to the bottom of "inputs 1-8" and set it to card 1-8 and follow suite card 9-16 etc. You are basiically routing the inputs of the bourd to have the ouptuts of your daw come in on those channels.  I use pro tools not logic but you also have to tell each channle in logic to go out the same way, each track has to be set to output 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 etc. Also make sure as mentioned under "Setup"  Card which is the last tab that it is set to 32 in and 32 out.

M32r, Pro Tools, DL32.
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Re: Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

I find it easier to use the RECORD/PLAY mode in the ROUTING menu.  As far as I can tell, the M32 has 2 preset "scenes" in the ROUTING menu (toggled by the lower right encoder).  This allows you to flip your board inputs from your normal analog input audio sources to the card at the press of a button.  It is also much easier to use the GUI (M32-EDIT) if you have it, but it is still very simple.  First, go to SETUP>CARD and make sure it's set to 32 IN/32 OUT.

Then just go to ROUTING and use the lower right encoder to select PLAY.  Then assign the card outs to the console inputs!  If using the GUI, go to ROUTING>INPUTS and click the PLAY button.  Set the CARD output blocks to the channel input blocks on the grid.

If you can't tell, I am a fan of the M32-Edit GUI, the main reason being it allows you to keep the METERS>IN/OUT window open on a separate monitor at all times.  While you can see this on the M32's screen, I find the GUI light years better because I can see it from wherever I am in the studio while troubleshooting things.  On my M32R screen, you have to be licking the screen to actually see something.  Not to mention being able to use the mouse on the routing grids.

M32cardRouting1.jpgM32cardRouting2.jpg

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Re: Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

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Thank You!!
can you send me the link to the GUI? It looks like it would be much easier this way!
thank you for posting this!
Michael Grande
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Re: Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

It's available on the mixer's product page under the DOWNLOADS tab.  It's called M32-EDIT.  NOTE:  I recently upgraded to M32-EDIT version 4.1 and now OSX will not launch it, so I'm still having to use version 4.01 until I find a fix.  Using the most recent version of OSX.  (Got M-32 Edit 4.1 to launch in OSX 10.15.4 by holding down the CTRL key while right-clicking the program and selecting OPEN.)

In Logic, it is as simple as right-clicking the OUTPUT field in the individual track faders in Mixer view, and assigning which output you'd like.

NOTE:  Tthe M32 has the option of mapping the first 2/4/6 card outputs to the AUX INPUTS or many other board inputs.  This setting is found in the ROUTING page on the first tab on the right most colum [CARD IN 1-2, 1-4, or 1-6].  I have not messed around with deeper routing, but knowing the routing flexibilty of this board it's probably possible to not have to move the physical TRS cables in the AUX INPUT jacks and assign them elsewhere while using them as the card remap inputs.  You don't have to have the card outputs remap to the AUX INS, but I believe it is the default setting of the board.  When it is properly working, you will see "CO1, CO2, etc" or some variations thereof in the scribble strips.  I always consider my computer audio to be AUX 1/2 regardless.
>>SUBNOTE:  TRS cables inserted into AUX INS 5/6 will physically override the AUX INS 5/6 RCA connections.....it took me like hours of troubleshooting to figure that out. *facepalm*

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Re: Integrating Logic Pro with Midas M32

So have any of you used the aux I/O patching say to insert an analog noise gate ?