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Consider buying a Dedicated Computer

Just a suggestion to those who are having troubles:

After dropping a thousand bucks on an audio interface, half a grand on a DAW, (Sonar 7 Studio, including a few VST upgrades), $500 -1000 on a decent set of monitors, and thousands of dollars over the years on various musical instruments & other stuff, it seemed entirely reasonable to me to buy a separate computer JUST for my recording sessions.

I spent a mere $650 on a new dual core computer, which included a free 19 inch LG monitor.
I then maxed out the RAM for less than $200, and added a separate PCI FireWire card for $32.

So this is now a dedicated computer, solely for the purpose of my recordings, and as such, I have only loaded the programs I need into it.

I NEVER have this computer on-line, nor do I use it for anything else. I also stripped away and/or disabled anything on it that I don't absolutely need.

Now that may be considered a luxury to some, but when you look at all the troubles people are having with their setups, it seems the most logical place to start.

After all, your interface is a dedicated device, all your musical instruments are dedicated devices, your keyboards, sound modules, guitars and VSTs are all dedicated in their own right, so why share your computer with any other things that can cause complications, hassles or interference?

How much is your time and avoiding unnecessary aggravation worth?

Computers and laptops are so cheap now, that you can get another one for all of your other needs, including internet browsing, for a mere $400-500.

My particular setup gives me absolutely ZERO troubles, right from the start.
I tried the tc 24D first, and was impressed enough, that I bumped up to the SK48.
Both worked perfectly, from the get-go.
TC Konnekt driver installations for both couldn't have gone better, (or faster)!

So if you can afford it, why not buy a dedicated computer just for your DAW and interface?

Isn't your music and all your hard work worth it?


I read a quote years ago that I've never forgotten:

"If you want a minimal-hassle, non-complicated life, then just simplify things!" Smiley Wink


Just food for thought.

jamusic
t c SK48 | Presonus StudioLive 16.4.2 | Roland UM-550 MIDI Interface | 3 Monitors | Win 7 Home - 64 Bit | i7-2600k | 16 Gigs Ram | ASUS P8Z68 MoBo | Cubase 8.0.4 | Roland V-Piano | Panorama P6 Keyboard | Yamaha P-200 | MIDI Modules | Roland TD-6 V-Drums | Some Guitars | Very Little Talent Smiley Wink
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jamusic Contributor - Level 2 2008-09-20

2008-09-20

Consider buying a Dedicated Computer

Just a suggestion to those who are having troubles:

After dropping a thousand bucks on an audio interface, half a grand on a DAW, (Sonar 7 Studio, including a few VST upgrades), $500 -1000 on a decent set of monitors, and thousands of dollars over the years on various musical instruments & other stuff, it seemed entirely reasonable to me to buy a separate computer JUST for my recording sessions.

I spent a mere $650 on a new dual core computer, which included a free 19 inch LG monitor.
I then maxed out the RAM for less than $200, and added a separate PCI FireWire card for $32.

So this is now a dedicated computer, solely for the purpose of my recordings, and as such, I have only loaded the programs I need into it.

I NEVER have this computer on-line, nor do I use it for anything else. I also stripped away and/or disabled anything on it that I don't absolutely need.

Now that may be considered a luxury to some, but when you look at all the troubles people are having with their setups, it seems the most logical place to start.

After all, your interface is a dedicated device, all your musical instruments are dedicated devices, your keyboards, sound modules, guitars and VSTs are all dedicated in their own right, so why share your computer with any other things that can cause complications, hassles or interference?

How much is your time and avoiding unnecessary aggravation worth?

Computers and laptops are so cheap now, that you can get another one for all of your other needs, including internet browsing, for a mere $400-500.

My particular setup gives me absolutely ZERO troubles, right from the start.
I tried the tc 24D first, and was impressed enough, that I bumped up to the SK48.
Both worked perfectly, from the get-go.
TC Konnekt driver installations for both couldn't have gone better, (or faster)!

So if you can afford it, why not buy a dedicated computer just for your DAW and interface?

Isn't your music and all your hard work worth it?


I read a quote years ago that I've never forgotten:

"If you want a minimal-hassle, non-complicated life, then just simplify things!" Smiley Wink


Just food for thought.

jamusic

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Re: Consider buying a Dedicated Computer

I have no trouble with either my DKx32 or SK48 when using each by themselves or in concert with my Fireface 800. It's when I try to use both of them together that I have probems.
And as I stated in another post; I reset my old Toshiba P25 laptop back to a fresh XP install and updated all the OS via the NET and it works better with both TCE unit's installed (although not all channels are available without glitches) than my new Asus Core2Duo machine. I used my Toshiba on a solo gig last night with my SK48 and the remote and it worked like a dream!
With either unit plugged in and using my Fireface 800 as the ASIO device, there are no issues at all.
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Re: Consider buying a Dedicated Computer

Jamusic: Yeah, this is the "best" solution - to keep your music system seperate from everything else. I did an install of Vista around-about July. When I got my SK48 I had drop-outs. Long story short, I had to re-install Vista, because in the time between the 1st & 2nd install, some tiny piece of code was causing these drop-out. It could have been freeware, or even some pirated software (potential culprit - Sony Sound Forge 9.0c [hacked], doesn't install on this revamped system).
I do agree with what you've said, but I also feel that so long as you're careful (checking your setup each time you load software), then you can get your multi-purpose computer to behave the way you want it to.

Bossa: Looks like we have the same notebook, but your setup way much more complicated than mine. You say you did a fresh XP install on the old Toshiba notebook. Have you done the same on your ASUS? I'd say you already have done the Vista re-install, but that your problems stem from your need for three individual Firewire ports...
Good luck in finding a resolution to that one... :-/
15" Macbook Pro (mid-2015), 16Gb RAM, 500Gb SSD, Cubase 9.5, Logic Pro X, Ableton Live 10. PPG Waveterm A + Wave 2.3 + PRK, Roland JX8P, Waldorf Microwave, Kawai K5000W, Novation X-Station 25. 2x TC Electronics Studio Konnekt 48, Focusrite Octopre mkII, MOTU MIDI Express XT. Lexicon MX400, Yamaha GQ2015A, Chevin Research A500, 2 x JBL 105's. Additional: QNAP TS-453BT3 NAS
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Re: Consider buying a Dedicated Computer

The fact is that the konnekt's are being marketed as fully comp. with this and that os and they should work. Other sound cards with the dice II chip do work.
The konnekt's do not work for a lot of people. Mine 24d doesn't work even with the included cubase in (osx 5.5) It says "asio could not be loaded) Logic works but i want to use cubase because of the better audio.
In xp i have to disable everything so i can get drop outs only every 10 min.
And yes. I tried all the drivers, buffer settings, hot fixes and so on.
Oh...how about that it can not be buss powered on a macbook pro...i read somewhere that someone from tc says that it's "Apple's problem"
Get an RME, Echo...or a 20€ card and your hardware and software will be good enough to run with them.
Generally i agree with you jamusic, but we should not accept bull. and make other people's problems into ours. It is not a 20 € card.
Excuse my English. Picked it up from mafia movies...but this is the kind of language a have got for TC any way.
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Re: Consider buying a Dedicated Computer

bobophone: Just wanted to comment on some of that:

There are a couple of points that needs to be clear:

1. Compatibility: If you are saying that citing XP compatibility requires us to be compatible with all systems running XP, then thats simply not realistic. Not by a long shot.

2. Cubase LE issue: Your computer is Intel based, Cubase LE is a PPC application. This means Cubase is running emulated under Rosetta. Delete the 'library>audio>plugins>vst>konnekt' folder to start with. Otherwise I would advise you to upgrade to a version 4 of Cubase.

3. Buspower: This is completely normal. As of april last year, Apple started to reduce the initial current sent out by the firewire bus on MBP's. This not only affected us, but many other manufacturers. There is nothing we can do on our end to resolve that. Currently, the only TC interface working on buspower on MBP's is the DK6. Mind you, this is only applies to MBP's. No other Mac has that particular issue.

Dedicated audio PC's are of course great, but in the vast majority of cases, an off the shelf computer will work just fine if it is tweaked for audio. Mac's are of course also a very safe bet. (I own a number of them and couldn't be happier)

I hope that clears things up.
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