Alex Holland;160083 wrote:
I am using the umc404hd, a digitech rp250 and reaper.
I want to run pre-recorded tracks through my rp250 as an insert. First some key assumptions I'm making, please correct me on anything:
Should only be affected by the DAW track fader. Don't set the 404HD as your system audio device. Otherwise, you might end up recording system sounds, alerts, etc.
1.Playback outputs's volume is only affected by my DAW or PC master volume.
The position of the MIX knob also affects this. (See diagram)
2. With monitor set to A no playback outputs will be heard in headphones.
Correct. However, it's been reported that the 404HD outputs are a little weak.
3. Playback outputs are line level.
4. Main out and headphones only contain audio from DAW output channels 1/2 and umc404hd inputs, but with monitor set to B only playback outputs 3/4 are heard in headphones.
** An example of what I'm thinking will work: I have tracks recorded in reaper, i want to run only the track "Vocals" through the rp250 while also being able to hear the master track so as to make adjustments in real time. So in reaper I set "Vocals" only to output on channel 3 and create a new track armed to record (named "Vocal-insert"). Then run a trs cable from playback output 3 to input 1 set to line level. Press play in reaper and adjust pc master volume to get a suffcient signal strength. Then plug rp250 into Insert 1 using an insert cable and adjust levels on the rp250 to suffcient signal strength and effect levels. I think avoiding adjustments to the pre-amp gain is a good idea. Then hit record and be able to hear the the master track mixed with my input and without original "vocals" track.
My questions are: Is this method going to cause any device damaging feedback?
Will I have latency?
However, it's been reported that the 404HD outputs are a little weak.
Why do you want to avoid adjusting pre-amp gain?
Alex Holland;160132 wrote:
My last post hasn't gone through yet, but after some googling I think my problem getting audio to playback outputs 3/4 is that my audio driver was waveout and i apparently need to use ASIO. I will try this tomorrow.
I just ran a quick test with the ReaInsert plugin and that's the way to goI also gave Reainsert a shot. It looked like a more convenient method but when I tried it the track began accelerating up ahead of the master. Enabling/disabling latency and using the ping option didn't help. I'll just stick with the first method for now.
Don't forget to remove the "vocals" track from your Master bus otherwise you'll get a weird echo. Think "Twilight Zone".Golden Earring or Rod Serling?
Alex Holland;160208 wrote:
I messed around doing it the way I described and was satisfied. It worked just as planned and I was able to add just the right amount of reverb and delay. I could have used Reaper fx but it's more fun twisting knobs plus it helps keep my screen clear of editing windows. This opens up some interesting possibilities. I can use the expression pedal on the rp250 to create envelopes of any effect or put a whammy on drums if I felt like it. That's all possible in reaper anyway I suppose but I find the pedal more intuitive.
I also gave Reainsert a shot. It looked like a more convenient method but when I tried it the track began accelerating up ahead of the master. Enabling/disabling latency and using the ping option didn't help. I'll just stick with the first method for now.
Golden Earring or Rod Serling?
Well thanks for your help. I do have a question about the UMC control panel. The output volumes were set to -11 so I put them at 0. With there being volume controls in reaper and the umc404hd itself I don't what this panel is good for but if there is there proper setting I should use please let me know.
I like twisting knobs as well. I have a small MIDI controller I configured and use in Reaper to control plugin effects.Speaking of MIDI controllers I used my Casio LK-100 as one to record a piano part. It was cool being able to simply delete extra notes from my fat fingers. Although this keyboard's MIDI signals are all or nothing when it comes to velocity, so hard to have nuanced dynamics.
Sounds like you might have had the plugin on the original track not the return track? What I did was send the original "Vocals" track to "Vocals-Insert" then added the ReaInsert plugin there.Whoops, yes that is what happened.