FrankLevy Contributor - Level 2 2015-05-06

2015-05-06

XR12 USB playback (.WAV)

I've had my new XR12 for a few days now and I'm getting to grips with it nicely. It's the first Behringer equipment I've owned & what a brilliant piece of gear it is! Smiley Very Happy

However.... I can't figure out the USB audio interface. When I plug in a USB memory stick with a WAV file on it, the led on the XR12 flashes in response. When I try to get the "Cassette" Player to play by clicking on the play button, the USB led flashes also but it doesn't play and the "Cassette" Player reels move a bit but don't revolve like I think they are supposed to. I think the problem might be in the Setup Page on the Mixer Tab where it shows the USB Interface with radio buttons to select either 18/18 ch or 2/2 ch. As the device is an XR12, I figure I need to click on 2/2 ch to activate the USB port. The radio buttons are blank and do not respond at all when I click on them.

Is there something I'm doing wrong or something else I need to set to get the USB playback functioning?
I'm using X-AIR-EDIT_PC_1.0 and the XR12 arrived with XR16-XR12_Firmware_1.09 already installed when it arrived from Thomann on Tuesday, 5th May. Perhaps there's a new X-AIR-EDIT update coming out soon to activate this?

Michael Lapke, I'd be most grateful if you would kindly comment here with a few words of wisdom on this subject.

Many thanks!

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Super Contributor - Level 2

Re: XR12 USB playback (.WAV)

How are you listening to the XR12, Andy? Do you have stereo speakers driven from Main LR, are you listening to the mono Aux 1 output or do you have headphones connected to the Monitor jack?

Are you using some form of IEM or headphone amplifier? If so, what type of cable are you using to connect from the XR12?

The reason for asking is that some ways of monitoring can result in partial cancellation of the signal. Adding the mono feeds from channels 13-16 may then replace the parts that got cancelled.

What was the source of your background tracks? Are they just ripped from CDs or were they edited/processed in some way?
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Re: XR12 USB playback (.WAV)

Rex Beckett;141589 wrote:
How are you listening to the XR12, Andy? Do you have stereo speakers driven from Main LR, are you listening to the mono Aux 1 output or do you have headphones connected to the Monitor jack?

Are you using some form of IEM or headphone amplifier? If so, what type of cable are you using to connect from the XR12?

The reason for asking is that some ways of monitoring can result in partial cancellation of the signal. Adding the mono feeds from channels 13-16 may then replace the parts that got cancelled.

What was the source of your background tracks? Are they just ripped from CDs or were they edited/processed in some way?


Hi Rex,

Thanks for the reply. I was using L and R speakers from the XLR outputs however i was behind them listening through the headphones and monitor feature. I will set it all back up this week and listen in front of the speakers. I will let you know if that works.

The music was downloaded and paid for through iTunes and then converted to Wav files as previously stated in this thread.

Thanks for the ideas.
Contributor - Level 1

Re: XR12 USB playback (.WAV)

Screenshot 2019-10-26 13.53.22.pngWhen I load X_AIr edit on my ipad, its shows my usb record, but when open on Mac or PC does not show USB?

Anybody help?

Contributor - Level 2

Re: XR12 USB playback (.WAV)

I have some problem with usb record. The file very loud when I play on xair usb player, but when I play on another device(cd..) the sound is very small.

Somebody please tell me why and how can to fix this problem?

Thank you so much

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Re: XR12 USB playback (.WAV)


@Tiennhotony wrote:

I have some problem with usb record. The file very loud when I play on xair usb player, but when I play on another device(cd..) the sound is very small.

Somebody please tell me why and how can to fix this problem?

Thank you so much


@Tiennhotony 

Hello Tien, welcome to the community.

 

The signal source setting in the USB Recorder window will affect the recorded level. If you are recording the Main LR mix, setting the source to pre-fader (PFL) may increase the level.

 

However, with normal gain-staging in a digital mixer, the peak recorded level is likely to be about -12 dBFS. Professionally mastered music on CDs or MP3s is usually compressed and normalized to almost 0 dBFS so will sound much louder than an un-mastered track. You could use a simple audio editor like Audacity to normalize your recording to -1 dBFS so that it would play at a similar peak level to mastered tracks. It may also require compression to match the loudness of commercial recordings.

 

Contributor - Level 2

Re: XR12 USB playback (.WAV)

Hi Rex

Thank you for your help. It's very clear. So now I'm routing all chanel to bus1,2 with Max fader +10 and record on it PFL. It's better than Record on main L/R or not?

 

Thank you so much.

Have a nice day

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Re: XR12 USB playback (.WAV)


@Tiennhotony wrote:

Hi Rex

Thank you for your help. It's very clear. So now I'm routing all chanel to bus1,2 with Max fader +10 and record on it PFL. It's better than Record on main L/R or not?

 

Thank you so much.

Have a nice day


@Tiennhotony 

Using a separate bus pair for recording is OK but be careful about the level. The USB recording will clip if it peaks at 0dBFS. This is why it is usually better to record at a lower level and normalize the whole track in post-production.

 

If you really want to record at a high level, I recommend you enable the compressor in the recording bus pair and set it as a limiter (ratio >=10) with a threshold of -3dB. This will catch peaks that would otherwise distort.

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Re: XR12 USB playback (.WAV)

Heart

Thank you for your advice.