If you are using the S32 as the main input/output stagebox, the advantage of having an M32 at FOH is diminished to better faders, longer warranty and the Midas "bling", since the preamps and outputs are in the stagebox. An X32/X32Rack/stagbox(s) eco-system is a very common scenario and we've helped a number of users over the years to sort out the routing, etc. Typically the interconnectivity mapping for this would be:
X32 FOH [B] <-> [A] X32 Rack (MON) [B] <-> [A] stagebox(s) (eg. S32).
The Rack would input from the stagebox as well as pass those inputs on to FOH. Outputs from both consoles can be routed to either stagebox or Rack outputs (via the Rack Routing section).
I would agree with Dave @DaveMorrison suggestion of an X32 Rack and tablets for your scenario. This allows you to mix more than the 16 channels the P16 has. Regarding your engineer's concern, he needs to get up to speed with the current state of the X32/M32 eco-system.
Mixing Station has been the go-to app for the android users. It allows full access or limited access to each mixbus. In January the developer released an iOS version of Mixing Station (and Mixing Station Pro). This means that you only need to use one app (for both android and iOS) that can limit itself for a particular monitor mix. The FOH engineer can rest assured that the performers will have no access to his world. If you add the X32 Rack to the eco-system, they will be mixing their monitors on a separate console.
Hi Paul, I heard the older version (forget the IP aspect) has 100mm faders which are faster and better and the newer Live version has 80 mm faders and are slower, Is this true?
Never heard that, even as a rumour. Even the X32 has 100mm faders. Must be "fake news"
Paul my real question is which one has better parts such as preamps, faders and most importatly, sound quality? Or are they equal or is one better than the other?
As far as I know both use the identical M32 console - thus exactly the same sound quality. The only difference I know of is the sound card (DN32-USB vs the newer DN-Live) and the added flight case.
Just to clarify Rex @RexBeckett, post. The M32-IP is now a discontinued package (IP stands for integrated package) that included the M32 full console with the DN32-USB recording card and a flight case. The M32-Live includes the same M32 full console with the newer DN32-Live recording card (that Rex described), but no flight case included. If you are looking at purchasing new, the M32-Live is the one to purchase. If you find a used M32-IP in good condition and price, that may be the way to go, they purchase the DN32-Live at a later point and install.
Do I correctly understand that if I ended up with a 48/24 system, I’d only be able to route 40 inputs per scene?
Routing and mixing are 2 separate subjects with the X32. As Dave mentioned, an X32 console can mix a maximum of 40 channels strips (5 banks of 8) at any point in time. The actual sources of these channel strips can be changed using scenes and/or snippets.
Is there a limit imposed on the number of simultaneous outputs?
In any X32 eco-system the answer is theoreticaly no. There is a limit of cascaded stageboxes of 24 separate outputs per AES50 feed (each X32 has 2 AES50 ports). But X32 can also be connected to multiple X32 in the eco-system which does provide more potential outputs available.
Hi Tim @timtrace,
I would agree with Dave @DaveMorrison that the X32 Rack is an excellent choice of a console, particularly if you are use to using a laptop and/or tablet instead of a physical surface. I was one that insisted on having knobs and faders when I used my A&H GL2400 - no digital mixer for me. When my church got their X32 (Dec 2012), I quickly changed my mind. And when they released the X32 Rack (Oct 2014), I knew I had to have one and forced myself to learn how to do it with a laptop and tablet. After 5+ years and hundreds of events, I don't regret my decisions and love the freedom of not being tethered to the end of a snake.
If you do decide to get an X32, there are a number of seasoned users here that can help you with any questions that would arise. Also if you need added tools, there are a number of 3rd party developers that have created a number of software tools to provide specific solutions.
Is there a way to change the channelstrip layout for the x-air series.
i want the EQ after the compressor.
Maybe a future firmware update??
That feature is only available on the X32/M32 and I don't believe there are any plans on adding it to the X-Air consoles.
That is why I would like to view these products in a shop to get a feel for these products and also get some in store advice on which way to go. Has anyone had the same problem where you live?
Yes I have experienced something similar. The local Behringer dealer does not stock a lot of the higher end products such as the X32 and the staff would not be knowledgeable of these products in order to help someone come in off the street. Also I'm not sure how useful it would be to see the X32 "in person" since the real power is "under the hood" (so to speak) and someone well seasoned with the product(s) would be able to explain the advantages and disadvantages of each of the products. The best place to get this type of info is here. If you give us a description of what you want to accomplish, we'd be glad to help you out.
I guess my best course of action if I want to use the DL32 and Midas preamps is a X32 rack.
That would be my suggestion. The Rack is the "swiss army knife" of the X32/M32 family of consoles.