@Paul_Vannatto wrote: It uses the Midas Pro preamps and Midas outputs, whereas the X32 (and its stageboxes) uses Midas designed preamps. I noticed the difference when I switched from the Behringer XR18 to the Midas MR18 with a band. There is a difference.   Except according to the QSG (and @Roblof ,) it shares some characteristics with the X32 in terms of the TRS AuxOuts; they have 5dB less headroom than the XLR outs (16dBu vs 21dBu.)  Compare this to the TRS AuxOuts on the M32 line, which go up to +21dBu, the same as their XLR counterparts. Read more

I've not heard of it being required with the XR16 before, but it was a common practice with older mixers to switch +48v on for every preamp and leave it overnight to "run in" the console. Read more

I'm curious re the DP48s.  I know that they can provide 2 stereo mixes, but how practical is that in terms of 2 people on stage both needing "hands on" access to it.  Were you finding that musicians would need to wander over to their half of a DP48, make an adjustment, then wander back to whereever their instrument\pedalboard is?  Or was it usually a case of set and forget? Read more

I have thought, and I *think* there's a solution for 16 stereo IEMs if instead of getting a 2nd M32Core+DL32, you get a M32Core+Hub4+SD8 (or DL8\DL16 if you want to keep the system completely Midas.) *I think* (@Paul_Vannatto please correct me,) you can run Hub4(A)>(B)DL32(A)>(B)SD8(A)>(B)Core2(A)>(B)Core1(A)>(B)M32(A)>(B)M32R.   This will get you all the buses (2x M32Cs) and physical output sockets you need for 16 stereo IEMs (Hub4+DL32,) + the 4 FOH signals (SD8\DL8\DL16 with the output switch set at 17-24\mode3). However you'll still have the issue of a lack of IEM FX unless you use the LR buses for monitor mixes on the Cores to free up buses 15+16 for FX, (which means whoever is being fed by those mixes might need the fully fledged versions of the remote apps if their mixing their own ears, not just the monitor mixing app, as typically the monitor mixing apps don't see the LR bus.) You'll also still have the issue of needing to keep the processing consistant between the two Cores (X32Commander.) You can keep your 24 mics from of the DL32 + 8 signals from Dante + 6 AuxIns from FOH for your 38 inputs, and these can be sent to all consoles for mixing monitors\FOH\broadcast. The Broadcast mixer can be last in the chain and slaving for clock, so it doesn't matter if it's on or off. Either Core or the M32 can be clock master, and either Core or M32 can have preamp control. Read more

For your current setup:   It sounds like you're only using 4 outputs on the first DL32 from the FOH console, and need 12 outputs for monitors (2x stereo + 8x mono,) which you've currently got on the 2nd DL32. In that case you could get FOH+Monitor outputs on the same DL32, and dispense with the 2nd DL32 completely.   That way you could run DL32>M32C>M32>M32R. The M32C and the M32 can swap positions if that chain if that helps at all.   WRT adding another M32C+DL32 to give the monitoring system a total of 16 stereo IEMs: That's going to be a challenge.   Firstly: 16 stereo IEMs (8 per console) means 16 buses per console. This leaves almost none available for FX sends (unless you resort to using the console's LR bus as the 8th IEM mix, freeing up buses 15+16 to use as FX sends.   Secondly, 16 stereo IEMs means 32 outputs. That completely takes up all the analogue outs of 2x DL32s, meaning you're stuck for output sockets for those 4 signals you currently send to the first DL32 from FOH.   Thirdley, you have the issue of keeping the channel processing consistant between the two monitor consoles, eg if ch17 has a certain eq on the first monitor console, how do you ensure that ch17 has the same eq on the 2nd monitor console, so it sounds the same in everyone's ears? Now multiply this problem over all 38 inputs, + fx sends + fx processing. It can be helped with Patrick's X32_Commander app, if you can put a Windows computer on the same network as the consoles, but it will take some configuration.   Fourthly, there is the AES50 configuration. There aren't enough AES50 sockets to make this monitor part of the system work with the FOH+broadcast parts, especially due to the bankshifting performed by the DL32. It might work with another combination of stageboxes, I'd have to think a bit more. Read more

@Paul_Vannatto wrote: Correct. The 10 band GEQ is only available on the outputs. Ok, so if people want a GEQ on outputs, they can either use the 10 band emulation, saving themselves an FX slot + insert point, or they can use a 31-band insert from the FX slot. However, if they want a geq on a channel (and don't want to go ch>bus(geq)>ch,) they'll need to use the FX+insert, as on channels the geq emulation is not available. I too rarely use geqs anymore, but there are some people who will want them.   I agree this quote system is less than ideal. Read more

[QUOTE]You cannot insert the left half of an FX on one channel strip and the right half on another. Everything processed as stereo[/QUOTE] Ah. So if I wanted FX (eg a chorus) across 2 mono channels, (eg 2 guitars,) instead of using 1/16 FX engines and configuring it as dual mono, each side with different settings appropriate to each guitar, then inserting sideA over one guitar and sideB over the other guitar (as I'd do on the X32,) on the Wing I'll need to use 2/16 FX engines, both set up as choruses? That is a paradigm shift.   [QUOTE]With the Wing, each input channel strips provide the Wing-EQ (parametric) plus 6 other optional emulators. Each output channel strips provide the Wing-EQ plus 7 other optional emulators.[/QUOTE] So channels have a total of 7 eq options (including the vanilla "Wing eq,") buses\mains\mtxs have 8. Is the 10-band geq the +1, or is it available on both?   I've read that some people are having their orders shipped. Any ETA on the availablity of remote control apps\offline editor?   Edit:  How do you do quotes? Read more

But you're also saying that if the 16 FX units aren't enough to supply 31-band GEQs across all your outputs (eg if you've got more than 32 outputs (assuming the FX units can operate dual-mono,) or you're using the FX units for other things (eg reverbs and delays,) the channel\bus feeding the output can have its own inbuilt peq replaced with a 10-band geq (sort of like how the XAir series operate?) Read more